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Chapter XI.—The
Identity of the Father and the Son, as Praxeas Held It, Shown to Be
Full of Perplexity and Absurdity. Many Scriptures Quoted in Proof of
the Distinction of the Divine Persons of the Trinity.
It will be your duty, however, to adduce your
proofs out of the Scriptures as plainly as we do, when we prove that He
made His Word a Son to Himself. For if He calls Him Son, and if the Son
is none other than He who has proceeded from the Father Himself,
and if the Word has proceeded from the Father Himself, He will
then be the Son, and not Himself from whom He proceeded. For the
Father Himself did not proceed from Himself. Now, you who say that
the Father is the same as the Son, do really make the same Person both
to have sent forth from Himself (and at the same time to have gone out
from Himself as) that Being which is God. If it was possible for Him to
have done this, He at all events did not do it. You must bring forth
the proof which I require of you—one like my own; that is, (you
must prove to me) that the Scriptures show the Son and the Father to be
the same, just as on our side the Father and the Son are demonstrated
to be distinct; I say distinct, but not
separate:7875
7875 Distincte, non
divise. | for as on my part I
produce the words of God Himself, “My heart hath emitted my most
excellent Word,”7876
7876 For this version of
Ps. xlv. 1, see our Anti-Marcion, p.
66, note 5, Edin. | so you in like
manner ought to adduce in opposition to me some text where God has
said, “My heart hath emitted Myself as my own most excellent
Word,” in such a sense that He is Himself both the Emitter and
the Emitted, both He who sent forth and He who was sent forth, since He
is both the Word and God. I bid you also observe,7877 that on my side I advance the passage where
the Father said to the Son, “Thou art my Son, this day have I
begotten Thee.”7878 If you want me to
believe Him to be both the Father and the Son, show me some other
passage where it is declared, “The Lord said unto Himself, I am
my own Son, to-day have I begotten myself;” or again,
“Before the morning did I beget myself;”7879 and likewise, “I the Lord possessed
Myself the beginning of my ways for my own works; before all the hills,
too, did I beget myself;”7880 and whatever
other passages are to the same effect. Why, moreover, could God the
Lord of all things, have hesitated to speak thus of Himself, if the
fact had been so? Was He afraid of not being believed, if He had in so
many words declared Himself to be both the Father and the Son? Of one
thing He was at any rate afraid—of lying. Of Himself, too, and of
His own truth, was He afraid. Believing Him, therefore, to be the true
God, I am sure that He declared nothing to exist in any other way than
according to His own
dispensation and arrangement, and that He had arranged nothing in any
other way than according to His own declaration. On your side, however,
you must make Him out to be a liar, and an impostor, and a tamperer
with His word, if, when He was Himself a Son to Himself, He assigned
the part of His Son to be played by another, when all the Scriptures
attest the clear existence of, and distinction in (the Persons of) the
Trinity, and indeed furnish us with our Rule of faith, that He
who speaks, and He of whom He speaks, and to whom He speaks, cannot
possibly seem to be One and the Same. So absurd and misleading a
statement would be unworthy of God, that, when it was Himself to whom
He was speaking, He speaks rather to another, and not to His very self.
Hear, then, other utterances also of the Father concerning the Son by
the mouth of Isaiah: “Behold my Son, whom I have chosen; my
beloved, in whom I am well pleased: I will put my Spirit upon Him, and
He shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.”7881 Hear also what He says to the Son: “Is
it a great thing for Thee, that Thou shouldest be called my Son to
raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the dispersed of Israel? I
have given Thee for a light to the Gentiles, that Thou mayest be their
salvation to the end of the earth.”7882
Hear now also the Son’s utterances respecting the Father:
“The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He hath anointed me
to preach the gospel unto men.”7883
7883 Isa.
lxi. 1 and Luke iv. 18. | He
speaks of Himself likewise to the Father in the Psalm: “Forsake
me not until I have declared the might of Thine arm to all the
generation that is to come.”7884 Also to the
same purport in another Psalm: “O Lord, how are they increased
that trouble me!”7885 But almost all the
Psalms which prophesy of7886 the person of
Christ, represent the Son as conversing with the Father—that is,
represent Christ (as speaking) to God. Observe also the Spirit
speaking of the Father and the Son, in the character of7887 a third Person: “The Lord said unto my
Lord, Sit Thou on my right hand, until I make Thine enemies Thy
footstool.”7888 Likewise in the
words of Isaiah: “Thus saith the Lord to the Lord7889
7889 Tertullian reads
Κυρίῳ
instead of Κύρῳ, “Cyrus.” | mine Anointed.”7890 Likewise, in the same prophet, He says to
the Father respecting the Son: “Lord, who hath believed our
report, and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? We brought a
report concerning Him, as if He were a little child, as if He were a
root in a dry ground, who had no form nor comeliness.”7891 These are a few testimonies out of many; for
we do not pretend to bring up all the passages of Scripture, because we
have a tolerably large accumulation of them in the various heads of our
subject, as we in our several chapters call them in as our witnesses in
the fulness of their dignity and authority.7892
7892 [See Elucidation
III., and also cap. xxv. infra.] |
Still, in these few quotations the distinction of Persons in the
Trinity is clearly set forth. For there is the Spirit Himself who
speaks, and the Father to whom He speaks, and the Son of whom He
speaks.7893
7893 [See De
Baptismo, cap. v. p. 344, Ed. Oehler, and note how often our
author cites an important text, by half quotation, leaving the
residue to the reader’s memory, owing to the impetuosity of his
genius and his style: “Monte decurrens velut amnis,
imbres quem super notas aluere ripas fervet, etc.”] | In the same manner,
the other passages also establish each one of several Persons in His
special character—addressed as they in some cases are to the
Father or to the Son respecting the Son, in other cases to the Son or
to the Father concerning the Father, and again in other instances to
the (Holy) Spirit.E.C.F. INDEX & SEARCH
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